tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post1694036098291548456..comments2024-03-27T22:03:05.230-04:00Comments on The Legion of Super Bloggers! : The Threeboot: A RequiemMetropolisKid41http://www.blogger.com/profile/12121196519360092429noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-14487583272029109732017-03-13T00:29:38.952-04:002017-03-13T00:29:38.952-04:00This week's DCTV Legion reference: Cadmus ship...This week's DCTV Legion reference: Cadmus shipping aliens off to Takron-Galtos.LLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17282315103797061534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-38434141308872991272017-03-12T19:19:42.200-04:002017-03-12T19:19:42.200-04:00The threeboot was a mixed bag at best. A lot of pe...The threeboot was a mixed bag at best. A lot of people just assumed it was about juvenile rebellion but Waid had a lot of good stuff in there about generational conflicts and the dark sides of utopias. <br /><br />There were some interesting ides and concepts but it never quite got its groove. The Lemnos story and the Dominators plot went on far too long.While she had some fine moments, Supergirl took the spotlight away from some of the mainstays. Losing Cosmic Boy, a strong character who had essentially been the closest thing to a main character, halfway through the run didn’t help matters. Karate Kid and Triplicate Girl, both of whom were offered interesting spins on the characters, bowing out in the final quarter also undermined the book, especially as it was linked to other DC plots. <br /><br />While the first dozen or so issues were flawed, they were fun and engaging. Even when Supergirl took over, there were some fun moments. That came to an end after Waid and Kitson left. For the record, the art remained excellent throughout most of the series, even at the end with Manapul and Livesay. <br /><br />Shooter had his problems to be sure but I don’t think he is to blame for the demise of the threeeboot. The big problem with came down to DC and fans. DC simply had no idea what to do with the comic after Waid left (and frankly neither did Bedard who kept it in a holding pattern and Shooter who simply went in an odd direction). The fans also helped kill it, especially as hints of the old--no, not that Legion, the one before it.....wait before that incarnation and the five tears we didn’t show you.--the Legion from the days of Ronald Reagan, Muppet Babies, Larry Bird winning rings, Magnum PI, Belinda Carlile. That Legion. <br /><br />Well, the traditionalists won and their Legion was brought back thanks to Geoff Johns and the DC brass. The traditionalists even got Paul Levitz back at the helm and a “Legion Lost” spinoff to boot. <br /><br />How did that work out for everyone? Oh, right. Crashed and burned faster than the threeboot did. For the first time in decades, we have no Legion comics. <br /><br />The threeboot had a great deal of potential that never took off. It’s nowhere near as bad as its critics maintain even if it never truly developed into what it could have become. KMDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-61795685491467779042017-03-12T14:49:13.268-04:002017-03-12T14:49:13.268-04:00Ultimately forgettable. I was about to drop the b...Ultimately forgettable. I was about to drop the book when Shooter/Manapul came on and I gave it a try (the art alone was worth it in some ways).<br /><br />The reintroduction of the originals really killed the book. I remember feeling kind of angry about that especially since it hadn't been that long since the removed the zero-hour Legion (who I loved) from continuity.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00134862258728096913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-75691694963677610922017-03-12T10:13:01.508-04:002017-03-12T10:13:01.508-04:00The Waid-Kitson stuff was good but flawed, the Sho...The Waid-Kitson stuff was good but flawed, the Shooter-Manapul stuff was flawed but sometimes good. My favorite stories were the Tony Bedard stuff, but the art was just so off-putting, I was glad to see them replaced by Shooter-Manapul. Be careful what you wish for! I didn't mind the overall "let's look again at who these characters are!" plan, but Brainiac 5 in love with dead Dream Girl? Projectra turning evil? A little bit too much. <br /><br />And yes, each of these writers could have used a much stronger editor to keep the plot-lines more on track. For only 50 issues, this series seemed like it went on forever. Russell Burbagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756652514507714383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-5472561997002816222017-03-10T20:18:40.725-05:002017-03-10T20:18:40.725-05:00The Threeboot started great and ended poorly. But ...The Threeboot started great and ended poorly. But I wish they had tried to salvage it. Even at its worst it was always an attempt at originality, which the retroboot never was. I miss it, and I'm worried that DC will never do an ambitious Legion comic again.Matthew Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01007497367844755093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-68283921518955709112017-03-10T13:03:04.173-05:002017-03-10T13:03:04.173-05:00Yes, the "Eat it Grandpa!" was very tire...Yes, the "Eat it Grandpa!" was very tiresome.<br /><br />I don't like Mark Waid's Spider-Man but he's welcome to write the Super-family whenever he pleases. Unlike other DC writers in the time, he knew and understood Supergirl and it shows.<br /><br />The book really changed when he left. Bedard's arcs weren't bad... but they weren't as good as the older stuff.<br /><br />Shooter has complained Manapul is a brilliant artist but often ignored his editor-approved scripts, but he also has blamed himself for the book's troubles which led to cancellation.<br /><br />A pity his second run went so wrong. Back in the Sixties the Legion characters were really especial to him:<br />http://jimshooter.com/2011/03/growing-up-with-legion-of-super-heroes.html/<br /><br />By the way, in another blog entry he explains briefly why Supergirl and the Legion features were shuffled in 1969:<br />http://jimshooter.com/2011/03/leap-of-fate.html/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-77284646232249597012017-03-10T12:45:33.627-05:002017-03-10T12:45:33.627-05:00Let me preface with this: I gave the book 3 years ...Let me preface with this: I gave the book 3 years of my money. <br /><br />Eager for a new Legion book I was ready to see what Waid & Kitson had to offer. Out of the gate, a few things annoyed me, but they were minor (Colossal Boy shrinking, Viloet unseen for several issues, and of course, the off-putting "Eat it Grandpa!", among others). But I didn't let them dissuade me, and I kept reading. Supergirl was a much-needed breath of fresh air.<br /><br />Two of your comments are the reasons I ultimately gave up on this iteration. a) I agree that the stories did indeed drag on too long; and b) you use the word 'movement'. I like that word, and it's why this version of the legion didn't work for me. They began as a movement, but then didn't ever truly become a team. So I pulled up my big boy pants and spent my dollars elsewhere.<br /><br />Side note: so far every reboot has been in too much of a hurry to retell old stories. I feel that any new Legion book should begin with a small team focus (perhaps the Espionage Squad), tell a few new tales (creating NEW villains along the way), and then reintroduce members (and add some new) & villains from the past, in logical ways. <br /><br />Lastly: Thanks for all the hard work, it was interesting to see this particular run through eyes other than my own.Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14267403631542001938noreply@blogger.com