tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post4180639161878915240..comments2024-03-28T09:54:25.226-04:00Comments on The Legion of Super Bloggers! : Legion of Super-Heroes v2 #310MetropolisKid41http://www.blogger.com/profile/12121196519360092429noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-76212942209092343552022-04-30T10:56:31.793-04:002022-04-30T10:56:31.793-04:00I didn’t love this story, but I certainly wouldn’t...I didn’t love this story, but I certainly wouldn’t put it among the worst Legion stories by any means. To me, this was clearly Giffen wanting to be Kirby… specifically feeling the need to cut loose with the kind of Wall to Wall Violence Kirby would occasionally use in, say, “the Deathwish of Terrible Turpin,” focus is on the action, story is secondary. And Levitz, being a good friend/partner or maybe just wanting to take it easy himself said “go for it.” I’m not sure about their usual arrangements, but I’m sure at least the Khundia pages had to have been done Marvel-style.Estebannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-20016531902723379242022-03-12T17:44:30.734-05:002022-03-12T17:44:30.734-05:00As to the motivations of Omen and Prophet, I hones...As to the motivations of Omen and Prophet, I honestly think we weren't supposed to understand them. Omen was entirely alien, and Prophet had obviously gone crazy in his/its company. Not unlike Pariah, really, just more extreme. It was obviously an experimental story about a first contact with something utterly alien and ultimately unknowable.<br /><br />It's also likely that it was a riff on the story ideas for Crisis that were probably floating around by then, even as office gossip. The similarities between the two storylines are striking and probably not a coincidence.<br /><br />Ultimately, the story failed simply because Omen and Prophet were completely incomprehensible. While the Monitor and Anti-Monitor had motives that seemed insane to normal people, ultimately their forms of crazy were more familiar to readers. We've all seen "madman wants to destroy everything to remake it" stories before. Omen had no such familiarity to readers. In a prose novel, that can work. But comics are mostly visual and there just wasn't anything for readers to grab on to.<br /><br />As an addendum, I also suspect this story was a big FU to DC's PTB for the coming destruction of the basis of the Legion in Crisis.<br /><br />The names "Omen" and "Prophet" may very well have been meta and symbolic of what the creators knew was coming in the future. The story was an omen of the bad things to come regarding the viability of the Legion.<br /><br />Note that this story was resolved with Dream Girl (who can see the future) basically *flushing Omen down an inter-dimensional toilet.*<br /><br />That probably says it all. I've often wondered if that was an in-story editorial about DC's future plans (and often wished that someone had done the same with the Crisis story outlines!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-84870402577978552832017-07-30T15:17:24.764-04:002017-07-30T15:17:24.764-04:00That last full page is very, very Kirby isn't ...That last full page is very, very Kirby isn't it? Specifically, Forever People-y, at least to me. I wonder if Omen and Prophet may have made sense in a 30th century expanded fourth world context that eventually got vetoed...Jeff R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08358424612424285729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-60528112612421827082017-07-29T20:24:58.970-04:002017-07-29T20:24:58.970-04:00Yeah, Crisis the SERIES was more than a year away,...Yeah, Crisis the SERIES was more than a year away, but it was several years in the making behind the scenes. And since Levitz was in Editorial, along with preparing/working on two books (one with a major multi-issue plot that was already being set up here) and breaking in a new artist, he had a LOT going on at the time.<br /><br />So, maybe fans should reconsider their views a little on this story. Factor in all the real-world happenings, and something had to give. Sadly, the "Prophet/Omen" story may have been it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-57549207517571640682017-07-29T17:12:10.049-04:002017-07-29T17:12:10.049-04:00Crisis was more than a year away at this point. I ...Crisis was more than a year away at this point. I am guessing it was the stress of two books and also trying to get a new artist. THIS is the script that DC sent to Terry Shoemaker and Steve Lightle (atleast them, possibly to others) for them to draw as a "test" to take Giffen's place. <br />Surely there was a lot on Levitz's plate at this time. Russell Burbagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756652514507714383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-30115866868860769752017-07-29T17:10:25.224-04:002017-07-29T17:10:25.224-04:00"Mon" as in "done" or as in &q..."Mon" as in "done" or as in "Don." <br />The never-ending debate. ;-) Russell Burbagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756652514507714383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-19563383322662055732017-07-29T11:14:09.140-04:002017-07-29T11:14:09.140-04:00Am I the only one who (for a moment) heard a Jamai...Am I the only one who (for a moment) heard a Jamaican accent in my head when Ultra Boy was talking to Mon-El up in the 2nd image? Lower left panel. :ÞKenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14267403631542001938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-89107689143549064802017-07-29T09:24:32.002-04:002017-07-29T09:24:32.002-04:00Thanks for comments. I do wonder with the Baxter s...Thanks for comments. I do wonder with the Baxter series on the way and the need to run double legion books for a while when the Baxter book first got released, if Levitz was stretched.<br /><br />And yes, the Relnic scene was great. At times it is hard to figure out what to put in and leave out!Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-5026733312566826542017-07-28T18:52:45.595-04:002017-07-28T18:52:45.595-04:00You skipped the ending where the Khunds threaten R...You skipped the ending where the Khunds threaten Relnic and he basically tells them to shove off given how thoroughly the small group of Legionnaires wrecked Khundia. That ending scene stuck the landing no matter what else happened on the way. I give it some credit for that at least.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00134862258728096913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6439298599791449790.post-48049924893209405872017-07-28T12:54:01.629-04:002017-07-28T12:54:01.629-04:00How long before the original "Crisis" di...How long before the original "Crisis" did this story appear? The cover date is April 1984, so it was likely created in late 1983. At that point, DC Editorial was hip-deep in creating "Crisis" and trying to figure out (originally) how everything was going to turn out. Levitz, being an editor, was probably caught up in all of that and wondering how to preserve the Legion in ANY recognizable way. So he couldn't devote as much care to this story as to others, particularly with the great LSV storyline and both the Baxter title and this one on his plate.<br /><br />That's just a theory. To coin a phrase, I could be wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com